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Yes yes, the consciousness

We have one of those for each one, then we have the other parts of the mind that we share.

Which is something that can actively be controlled

entertain,me 😎

Yes yes, the consciousness

stop introducing messy words

How is it messy

entertain,me 😎

Which is something that can actively be controlled

Thats also not true

10:46 PM

You cannot control all conscious process, you being aware of a process doesnt make it controlable, if that were true panic attacks woudnt exist.

trees, can i give you an advice?

10:46 PM

that would make it easier for you to have this conversation?

You're aware enough to conversate with me which in turn means you are conscious

entertain,me 😎

You're aware enough to conversate with me which in turn means you are conscious

True

try to ask people what their experience it and listen without trying to understand how this works

Meaning it's you actively doing what your doing

Still you cannot control your feelings which are fully conscious...

leave that for later

KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧

try to ask people what their experience it and listen without trying to understand how this works

I already did that. Although I didn't exactly word it like that

entertain,me 😎

Meaning it's you actively doing what your doing

Its me doing what im doing, until nifty or katie come and take over

10:47 PM

Then its them

you can see how disruptive it is when the conversation is about how it works, right?

Because they have another separate perception of self

you might learn more if you just talked about how people experience it

entertain,me 😎

Which is something that can actively be controlled

A tulpa is essentially attributing actions, thoughts, and feelings to something external to you Therefore you can not control a tulpa If you control their form, you are moving them, they are not moving, because its about the cause being outside of your conscious effort

berockly (TTG)

A tulpa is essentially attributing actions, thoughts, and feelings to something external to you Therefore you can not control a tulpa If you control their form, you are moving them, they are not moving, because its about the cause being outside of your conscious effort

stop making it more complicated

10:48 PM

we tried that way already

Imsory

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

Still you cannot control your feelings which are fully conscious...

That's my entire point what you can control is conscious and what you can't unconscious. But your actively able to swap personality which makes that a conscious effort that only you can do

entertain,me 😎

That's my entire point what you can control is conscious and what you can't unconscious. But your actively able to swap personality which makes that a conscious effort that only you can do

Feelings are conscious and you cannot control them

Feeling are not conscious

10:49 PM

We can only influence them

Are you aware of your feelings?

Not make them happen

10:49 PM

Yes

I can make feelings happen.

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Not fully control them though

Then get angry in vc

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And prove to me your angry

That's my entire point what you can control is conscious and what you can't unconscious. But your actively able to swap personality which makes that a conscious effort that only you can do

@entertain,me 😎 - jump if you swap your personalities (tulpa) then your personalities are not you

entertain,me 😎

Yes

Then you are conscious about your feelings.

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

Feelings are conscious and you cannot control them

You should treat unconscious and conscious (when he says it) a category of unintentional versus intentional, thats how hes using the terms essentially

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

Then you are conscious about your feelings.

That's just mere recognition

So yes, tulpas using the terms like that, are unconscious

You can't make yourself dad in your happiest moment

10:50 PM

That takes effort

also people do experience co-fronting, which means that a few headmates are active at the same time, experiencing separation. switching is not the only option for tulpa to experience being

entertain,me 😎

That's just mere recognition

Lets not introduce meaningless words into this

Effort only you can do

10:50 PM

Bruh what

10:51 PM

These are basic words

That you are making up as you see fit.

Making up??

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These are real words

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Well I had fun but I'm still confused

10:51 PM

Let's just agree to disagree

WE DONT DISAGREE

I'm done wit the conversation

Thats the whole point.

berockly (TTG)

You should treat unconscious and conscious (when he says it) a category of unintentional versus intentional, thats how hes using the terms essentially

Trees, is this how you are using the words?

10:52 PM

In that case, yes, tulpas are unconscious

entertain,me 😎

These are real words

That you are using terribly wrong according to their dictionary meaning. (edited)

That is what makes them separate

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

That you are using terribly wrong according to their dictionary meaning. (edited)

I'm already done with the conversation.

I discovered today that im not me, that im not conscious and that i dont exist, how sad

Because you percieve them as unconscious, you can percieve them as separate from you

Anything more is just a drag through the mud of uncertainty

10:53 PM

I'm still just as confused as I was in the beginning

Make a tulpa and you will understand

Why would I wanna be someone else

10:54 PM

I could only be me

entertain,me 😎

Why would I wanna be someone else

Now its someone else?

I don't need a competitor or helper in my own body

entertain,me 😎

I don't need a competitor or helper in my own body

Now its someone different?

I'm only going by what yall are saying

entertain,me 😎

Why would I wanna be someone else

Thats not the point of tulpamancy The point is that there is someone else

Anyway, dont make a tulpa then...

You said it was a "different person" right?

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

Now its someone else?

You dont become someone else, the experience is more like, someone else emerges...

Having a tulpa contro your body doesn't make you become someone else

So it's still you

sounds like you just don’t want a tulpa. That’s okay, I don’t think they want you either :)

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So it's still you

@entertain,me 😎 - jump if you imagine a conversation with your friend in your head, is that friend in your head you?

Error 🧶

sounds like you just don’t want a tulpa. That’s okay, I don’t think they want you either :)

No need to be mean.

Error 🧶

sounds like you just don’t want a tulpa. That’s okay, I don’t think they want you either :)

Am I supposed to feel bad about that statement

entertain,me 😎

So it's still you

Right, if you believe it is you

10:56 PM

If not then no

entertain,me 😎

Am I supposed to feel bad about that statement

No.

Error is just being error tbh

So it's still you

@entertain,me 😎 - jump if you imagine a conversation with your friend in your head, is that friend in your head you?

Yes

why?

I have to actively make the voice say things

10:57 PM

It's just talking to yourself

entertain,me 😎

I have to actively make the voice say things

No you dont...

if you didn't make the voice say things, would it be you?

It just talks back

Leiko

if you didn't make the voice say things, would it be you?

Yes, because that case it would be an unconscious action

10:57 PM

Aware or nkt

entertain,me 😎

I have to actively make the voice say things

okay, so here is where the difference is In tulpamancy you do not actively make a tulpa respond to you, it happens automatically like in a dream

Not

entertain,me 😎

Yes, because that case it would be an unconscious action

If i have to make it talk back its me, if i dont have its also me

Yep